By David Necro

Photos by: David Necro

This interview was conducted in late 1997 (complete with original intro), and it offers an interesting glimpse of what was yet to come. At the time, it looked as if though Jack Off Jill were on their way to become the successors to such bands as the Runaways. Or perhaps the female equivalent of KISS, as singer Jessicka envisioned. More sick and twisted than either of those bands, of course. Unfortunately, their break up several years ago won't allow us to see that. Still, the power of their music continues to hold to this day, and may I say that their debut, 'Sexless Demons and Scars' is 1 of the better albums of that era. It was real rock n' roll, period. Despite their break-up, 1 would never think they went away, as they have not only kept their fanbase, but have gained scores of new ones. With what's going on the music biz today, with the proliferation of the Kelly Clarkson's and the Britney Spears', now would be a real cool time for a reunion. How about it, girls? -DN

Emerging from the same South Florida music scene as her colleague (and 1 time producer and partner in crime) Marilyn Manson in 1992, Jack of Jill have terrorized audiences from coast to coast with their horrific yet glamorous look, and loud and obnoxious sound. But let's not forget their onstage antics. the most noted of which is the by now famous (or infamous) incident which took place in Jacksonville, Florida (see interview for details) where both Jessicka, and the aforementioned Mr. Manson, were arrested on obscenity charges in yet another example of what happens when you mix government and religion. Victim of circumstance, or an obvious publicity stunt? What ever the case may be, it all too easy for journalists, audiences, and the general public alike to protray Jessicka as an unpreditcable, weird and depraved madwoman who enjoys cutting her arms with sharp objects while screaming at her audiences in a harrowing descent into madness. In interviewing her, however, such was not the case. Believe it or not, I found this "madwoman" to be a charming, intelligent, and compassionate individual. A case of schizophrenia perhaps? Not necessarily, as what it seems is that Jessicka has control over her contrasting personas as her frame of mind appears to be the same off as well as onstage. Except offstage she does not act out her emotions, but prefers to keep it to herself. Jack Off Jill's music is a meeting of both these mind-sets, going from quiet introspection to full-blown psychotic rage. Their debut, 'Sexless Demons and Scars' (produced by Don Fleming, of such artists as Alice Cooper, Dark Carnival, etc.) sonically recalls the glory days of such seminal bands as Samhain, the Velvet Underground, Iggy and The Stooges, early Alice Cooper, and KISS with it's raw, tribal, and metallic sound. Their live performances can be described as dark, ghoulish, and intense but at the same time sad, and even child-like. If there is a visual analogy to describe all of this it would be that of candy apples and razor blades with cyanide laced cherry soda to wash it down. Visuals aside, the motivations behind Jessicka appear to be deep, as apparently she has these demons inside of her, and she releases them by being a performer. She alludes to this by claiming that this is a sort of therapy for herself as well as her bandmates. However, in the process Jessicka has created an image for herself; a concious creation perhaps, of the abused horrible girl, the devil with the black dress on who again, engages in self-mutilation and is not adverse to throwing temper tantrums onstage. After all, it has been a well known fact in the genre of theatrical rock that it is more often than not, just an act, a put on. Is she trying to sell us pain and misery or does she really feel it and just trying to express it? the answer to that question would have to be yes to both. On 1 hand, she and the band would want to be financially able to express their artistic goals, on the other hand, there is that underlying sense of pain, torment, and remorse that is ingrained in Jack Off Jill's music, 1 that no amount of financial rewards can ever erase, As the last line of the CD's last track "AngelsFuck" says; "it will always hurt you fucking asshole!"

D. Necro: What is the meaning behind the name Jack Off Jill?

Jessicka: Hmm...let's see. Well, underneath it all when you grow up you get told this nursery rhyme; "Jack and Jill fell off the hill and fetched a pail of water, Jack fell down and broke his crown, etc. etc." He was murdered, and they're just kind of sweetening that and it's kind of a perverse way, the way that people tell childeren certain things and they want to make it seem like it's okay to die. So, it's the way they kinda sugarcoat death, to me. Because he fell down the hill and cracked his head open, and you know he was dead. So, the meaning behind the band, kind of. Just the way that a lot of people sugarcoat the nasty things, and I'd rather get it out in the open, rather than sugarcoat it.

D. Necro: Oh, you mean you'd rather tell it the way it is.

Jessicka: Exactly.

D. Necro: Describe your music, please.

Jessicka: Well, I was told once by somebody that it was a cross between Culture Club and Iron Maiden, and I thought that was the best I've ever heard, so that's different. It's a combination of just growing up, having a mother that was obsessed with Billy Joel and having cousins that were obsessed with KISS. So growing up in that genre of music, that's kind of what the way that, um I got into this area of music right there.

D. Necro: Really. So you're unable to define it.

Jessicka: Not really. See, a lot of times people just becuase you're women they wanna say that it's punk rock just becuase that's the genre of music it is and it falls under the category of Babes In toyland or Bikini Kill. but I think that we've kind of surpassed that a little bit, maybe a little bit more of a Metal record. And if that's like a bad term to use, Metal, dark Metal, rather than going into that happy punk genre.

D. Necro: What about the term Shock Rock?

Jessicka: We've been called that before. I try to steer clear from that.

D. Necro: Well actually, the term Deathglam hasn't been used in a long time.

Jessicka: Rozz Williams more than anything.

D. Necro: When did Jack Off Jill begin, and how did you get started?

Jessicka: In 1992, in Florida; December of '92, and we were playing in a garage type area. A friend came along and he got us an opening slot for his show, and that's how it started.

D. Necro: Are you trying offend anyone?

Jessicka: Well the term offend eludes me more than anything else. I mean I'm just desensitized to the term offend because I do what I do for myself, and if it offends anyone, I'm not sorry. Personally, I don't have any religious beliefs so I guess that maybe in some areas I'm offending religious invidiuals rather than anything else. But, that's their own hangups, not mine.

D. Necro: Are you trying to offend any particular people?

Jessicka: My father rather anyone else. I'm an opposite mysoginist.

D. Necro: Anybody other than him?

Jessicka: Yeah I'm just really just going after my father. No, it's really not that. I mean to take offense to something that is eye-opening, I'm just desensitized to that, so it's not really that I'm going after the offensive rather than anything else.

D. Necro: It logically could stem from your childhood.

Jessicka: Thank you.

D. Necro: Does sex and sexuality play a major role in your music and stage act?

Jessicka: There was a time period where we had a guitar player that was androgynous. But rather than that, I think sexually I'm more still a 5 year old than anything else. I guess it does play some sort of term in our music because we're mostly made up of women, and a lot of people take that out of term. But, I don't think that our music is more sexually charged more than it's possibly violently charged, or to the point where you're just moody. So that's more sexually charged than anything, I mean I gre up around that most of my life and I find it dull and boring.

D. Necro: So it doesn't play a big role.

Jessicka: I mean, well and it's not necessarily that we have naked women on stage. So therefore, yeah exactly, so it's not like we're this sexually charged (band.) But to me that's not sex, that's just bullshit. To me, sex is more violent than anything else.

D. Necro: Oh, really?

Jessicka: Yeah, definitely.

D. Necro: Why do you feel that way?

Jessicka: The I've been brought up, the way I've dealt with relationships in the past, more than anything else.

D. Necro: To be violent?

Jessicka: To grow up to be violent? I mean don't you find that anyone in our age group has grown up to be sort of semi-viooent because we're spawned from people that were so non-violent? Like our hippie parents.

D. Necro: No, no, no, my dad's an old geezer. He's 71 years old, he's not a hippie at all. His time was the early to min '50s, before that (the hippie era-late 60s)

Jessicka: Oh is he? Okay, so yeah, I found myself rebelling against them because they were so anti-rebellious, you know what I mean? They were just...

D. Necro: Oh, so this is what's going on in society, you feel?

Jessicka: I never really use that term society, it kinda makes me sick.

D. Necro: In the world.

Jessicka: Yeah, maybe. Well, if you look at it more and more I mean it happens in every generation. In this generation there are ravers and there are again the Gothic kids re-surging, and just like the 80's there were new wave kids and there were Heavy Metal kids. It's the same thing over and over again, it just keeps happening.

D. Necro: How did you obtain this level of notoriety and success? Was it the Marilyn Manson connection? Was it your stage act? Or was it something else; what exactly was it?

Jessicka: Well, I can't say that it wasn't the connection, becuase it has helped us a lot. But now we're just more and more trying to break off from that because it's just that they've done so much during that time that the comparisons just get a little edgy, and you just don't wanna go into that rip-off term more than anything.

D. Necro: What is your relationship with Marilyn Manson? What is the extent of it?

Jessicka: Um, he did...it was actually the first show we ever opened up for. He got us started and offered us the first slot, and we played with them on a tour. We got arrested together, and he produced our first 3 little mini-demos.

D. Necro: Other than that, are you good friends with him, and that sort of thing?

Jessicka: Well, I haven't spoken to him in about a month and a half, so.

D. Necro: Well, that's not that long.

Jessicka: Well, no, I mean we speak when we see each other and we're happy to see each other. If you can use that term happy with either of us. I mean it's amicable; I had a very bad relationship with the bass player, we used to date for 4 or 5 years and, uh.

D. Necro: Oh, Twiggy?

Jessicka: Yeah.

D. Necro: That didn't end really on good terms, you're saying.

Jessicka: No.

D. Necro: So will you ever tour with Marilyn Manson again? Is this a thing that could happen?

Jessicka: It all depends on...

D. Necro: Keep you away from the bass player.

Jessicka: No, no, no, that's not true. I mean it all depends on our relationships. I mean I can't imagine that it would be such a terible thing.

D. Necro: Which artists from the past or present have inspried you and why?

Jessicka: I've always been fascinated by Robert Smith and Boy George, their androgyny and their anti-sexuality, to me. Sonic Youth, Daisy Chainsaw, and I'm a big Lydia Lunch fan; Lydia Lunch is a maininfluence more than anything, her spoken word. I mean of course you go into the area where you're, you say the Stooges and David Bowie but that's just so oversaid. But I just think that, I mean there are a few other ones. I mean I can go to say that George Washington was a big infulence as well, but I won't go there.

D. Necro: Are you a big fan of the Stooges?

Jessicka: Yeah, I'm a big Stooges fan.

D. Necro: Would you ever like to do a Stooges cover at all?

Jessicka: Possibly, we've thought about it, but I think that I might be avertime by the time we did it.

D. Necro: Well, you should of given Ron Asheton (Stooges guitarist/bassist) a call, he could have come up and played "I Wanna Be Your Dog" with you.

Jessicka: Exactly. I think he's worked with the guy that did our record, Don Fleming, on stuff.

D. Necro: Yeah, he produced 'The Last Great Ride' by Dark Carnival.

Jessicka: Yeah. So we discussed that (working with Ron Asheton) with Don before.

D. Necro: You're a big fan of Iggy too.

Jessicka: Yeah, really big Iggy fan; he cuts himself with peanut butter, c'mon! Have you ever heard the story in Texas? He had a jar of peanut butter on stage, and smashed it on the floor, and took the shards of broken glass and cut open his chest. That's what the song 'Lollirot' is about, about Iggy Pop and what he did in Texas.

D. Necro: Well, there's that more famous story that happened in 1974 at Rodney Bingenheimer's English Disco in Hollywood, where Iggy took the knife to himself.

Jessicka: Right.

D. Necro: Then Ron Asheton and a couple of his friends beat the crap out of Iggy, and all of this. Now, that's a good story!

Jessicka: But isn't it more fascinating with peanut butter? Open sores and peanut butter is very nice. Yeah, I've heard that story too, but that was some Texas incident, when, uh...

D. Necro: What year was that; '73 on the 'Raw Power' tour?

Jessicka: I'm not really sure.

D. Necro: Ok. What are your religious beliefs, you said you didn't have any? Are you Satanic?

Jessicka: Well, going into the teachings of Anton LaVey, etc, etc.

D. Necro: The late Anton LaVey.

Jessicka: Yeah, I just found out last night, actually. I was told and a friend of mine Boyd Rice, he's done some interviews with him and...

D. Necro: Boyd Rice, a name you rarely hear in a conversation.

Jessicka: Really? Boyd is very fascinating. So I mean I agree with most of it, but you internalize a lot of that stuff and then you add some things, so I don't necessarily say that I am a full Satanist. I mean I'm certainly not into Catholicsm rather than anything else. I read it as a 13 year old child.

D. Necro: 'The Satanic Bible,' you mean?

Jessicka: Yeah, and everyone did; well, everyone I knew did. You grow up on that and you add some of your own beliefs into it. So you're really not a pure Satanist rather than anything else. I mean I could say anything, In guess I would be necessarily called a Satanist.

D. Necro: Do you think cheezy girl groups like Spice Girls make things harder for female artists such as yourself that want to make music that challenges the listener?

Jessicka: It makes it difficult, but in another term it's just complete comedy, it's complete comedy. Because you get to a point where you ask yourself "who the Hell's buying that stuff?" And do you necessarily want that as an audience?

D. Necro: Sex sells.

Jessicka: Sex sells, but you're at a point where sex doesn't make up for lack of lyrics or anything like that. You know what? It does sell, but I don't necessarily think that I would want the people that bought a Spice Girls record to be my audience, because that kind of fills a void right there, in what...

D. Necro: How do you know they're not part of your audience?

Jessicka: I'm sure they are, I don't know that. But I'm saying again, are you a Spice Girls fan?

D. Necro: No, not at all.

Jessicka: I didn't think so. I mean it's just complete comedy, it's a comedy act. It's like 'I Love Lucy.' I can appreciate them as much as I appreciate that. So, and it's just you can't even compare it because listening to a woman like Diamanda Galas, and then putting Geri from the Spice Girls on...

D. Necro: Diamanda has a lot of blues and jazz influences.

Jessicka: Of course, and what do the Spice Girls have? They have a lot of, uh.

D. Necro: I think a lot of bands are straying away from their art, becuase what music should be is an art form, a way of expressing. Not a way to manipulate society to make money, which a lot of people have taken that and ran with it.

Jessicka: Well, I know some people that are doing that. This is an art form, this is expressive for me, and as you were saying before with the Spice Girls, what is the expression in that? We are stupid, and we can dance. I mean you don't want to cerson it, because then right there you're kind of going against what you're saying, but you don't necessarily want to buy it either.

D. Necro: What is most outrageous thing that you have done onstage?

Jessicka: Bringing a young gentleman on stage, pulling his pants down, pouring Jack Daniel's on his testicles, and lighting them on fire.

D. Necro: And that would be it?

Jessicka: No, that wouldn't be it. I had a guy have intercourse with a 6 foot teddy bear, and ejaculate into a watermelon. But those were olden days, days of yore.

D. Necro: Would you ever have sex on stage?

Jessicka: No.

D. Necro: You refuse to do this.

Jessicka: Yeah.

D. Necro: How about your bandmates?

Jessicka: No.

D. Necro: So, it's just the audience with an inanimate object, true?

Jessicka: No, it's not just that. It's just we feel it's more of a volient concept rather than anything else. It would probably be so...it's just not anything anyone could handle. I can't say never to anything, but right now, no...

D. Necro: Have you gotten any flak from any right-wing and Xtian fundamentalist groups?

Jessicka: Yes. Arrested in Jacksonville, Florida, 1995 with the Reverend (Marilyn Manson.) We both went to jail then, so that we were arrested by the 'Christian Coalition.' They had, uh...

D. Necro: Really. They persuaded the police to...

Jessicka: To go undercover and come to our show. We were the opening act, and he (Manson) was the headlining act.

D. Necro: Oh, it was a set-up!

Jessicka: Yep. We've had a protest at 1 show; abortion. I headed up a (pro) abortion show, and we had a small anti-abortion rally at 1 of our shows. We've had threatening phone calls to some of our parents actually, and we've been picketed just as much as anyone else has. But, the getting arrested part; the charges were so minor, they had lost the paperwork, and they held us over for 20 hours in Jacksonville. Which is insane because they run Jacksonville, Florida. The 'Christian Coalition' runs the government there, therefore the police and everything else.

D. Necro: Oh I see, so then basically they're claming down on everything there.

Jessicka: Right, but they don't take claim to that because they are sheep, and they hide behind their laws and their beliefs. But, when it necessarily came down to what we had done wrong, there was no explanation, There was just, "get in the fucking car."

D. Necro: Yeah, but if those guys got caught in a motel room with a hooker, all of it would be covered over.

Jessicka: Oh, completely.

D. Necro: So how do you feel about that, just for the record?

Jessicka: The 'Christian Coalition?'

D. Necro: Yeah, or the other Xtian fundamentalist groups. You hate them, or you want to kill them?

Jessicka: No, that would be a ridiculous reaction. The fact is that I've read more than they have, I can't imagine that. I've read 'The Bible' and the 'Satanic Bible.' Therefore, if I had to get into a verbal debate with them, I think they would be more angry with me for knowing their religion rather than the other way around. I don't want to kill them in any shape or form; they're the ones that are killing abortion doctors. I mean wouldn't I be going against my own beliefs?

D. Necro: Describe your audience.

Jessicka: Our audience...Well, in Flroida our audience were kids that were as miserable as we were, and I don't know how it's expanding playing these lager venues. So, when we play by ourselves it's more necessarily people that listen to darker, heavier music. And crazy enough we still get a lot of riot grrrl fans, which is strange. Crossing over into that genre of things, just because being 3 parts female, almost 4 parts, uh.

D. Necro: What are you trying to say?

Jessicka: Agent Moulder's been accused of having a penis.

D. Necro: Oh yeah?

Jessicka: But she does have a beard. I'll let you feel it later.

D. Necro: She does have a deep voice. She's probably taking steroids.

Jessicka: Yeah, you can only imagine. So there incorporates the sex and androgyny right there. She's the true androgynous bass player. Is that a banana in the pocket? You don't really know, you can take a look later.

D. Necro: Well, I don't know about that, really. Speaking of bananas, who are you trying to appeal to?

Jessicka: Younger people, actually people more my age group. But honestly, a lot of times what we appeal to is a lot of older Goth fans, which is strange to me. Because we play heavier music, (and) it's not necessarily ethereal rather than anything else. So, it's a lot of times you try to appeal to a certain crowd, and you get another crowd. But, we do appeal to a younger generation of Goth fans, and also an older generation of Metal and Goth fans. Like 80's Metal guys with Iron Maiden t-shirts...

D. Necro: Are you serious?

Jessicka: ...and 13 year old kids with Marilyn Manson t-shirts are both at our shows.

D. Necro: Yeah, some of the stuff sounds like the Stooges and early Alice Cooper.

Jessicka: Right, but there you go, you get guys that ae like in their early 40's wearing real Stooges t-shirts, guys in ther 30's wearing Iron Maiden t-shirts, and then young kids that are wearing Danzig t-shirts at our shows. you get all 3 walks, which is good. Also, girls wearing Bikini Kill t-shirts at our shows, which is real strange.

D. Necro: That's very interesting. Are you trying to change the scene and it's attitudes through your music, etc?

Jessicka: No, becuase I'm too busy trying to change my own perception on things. How can I possibly change the scene when I can't percieve reality.

D. Necro: Is your family supportive of your music and what you do for a living?

Jessicka: My mother has been to several shows. She doesn't watch, she turns to the wall and cries a lot. But, she doesn't stop me from doing what I have to do, so yeah.

D. Necro: And your father?

Jessicka: My father I don't speak to.

D. Necro: And the rest of your family; how do they feel?

Jessicka: They don't know.

D. Necro: They think you work at 'Wal-Mart.'

Jessicka: No, no, I mean it's not necessarily that we have constant airplay on 'MTV.' I mean a lot of people don't know about other music that doesn't go on in 'Rolling Stone' or on 'MTV.' So at this point in our career it's not necessarily that they need to know anything. There's no need, do you see what I'm saying? It's not like my grandparents are going out and buying 'zines, or my grandparents aren't necessarily...they don't read magazines in which our shows are advertised in. So they don't know; I'm the dirty secret.

D. Necro: The black sheep of the family?

Jessicka: Black indeed.

D. Necro: What is your artistic goal?

Jessicka: My artistic goal; well, I want to be able to create a stage show with women that was as interesting as possibly a David Bowie show or a KISS show, but there really wasn't anything in that genre of music that was female other than Debbie Harry. But, she didn't necessarily have a stage show. So when I'm financially equipped enough, I'd like to show people my music, but with a visual stimulant as well.

D. Necro: Sure, whatever you wish to do, that's the key.

Jessicka: I just think that would be entertaining, and I just don't think a lot of women are prepared to do that, so.

D. Necro: Is there a message of this band, and if so; what is it, and why?

Jessicka: Misery equals therapy, therapy can be comforting and lead to your own solace. Just for right now, that's my thought for the day.

D. Necro: What is your motivation for doing this?

Jessicka: Well, for a long time I wanted to prove a lot of people wrong, that I was once told by some very special person that they would go on tour and I would die there; he would make sure of it. So revenge is always a nice motivational tool. It's not necessarily revenge, I do it for myself too and to be able to spread what I feel is fit for listeners as well.

D. Necro: Anything else? Money?

Jessicka: I really don't have any need for money right now. I mean again what I said, it would be good to financially stable enough to put on a great stage show. But rather than that, I don't feel that I need to build a mansion made out of gold teeth right now. I mean, it may necessarily change your mind when you do get it, but at this point in the game, I do not want what I haven't got at this point. That's a Sinead O'Connor quote!

D. Necro: Where do you go from here?

Jessicka: On tour you mean? Or where do I go from here mentally? (laughs) I become manic-depressive and lock myself into a mental institution.

D. Necro: Well, for the band.

Jessicka: For the band itself, I mean I think the next record will be expected to be a lot heavier. The last track "Angels Fuck" is the direction that we're going to be into more.

D. Necro: So, you have this vision all put together? Is everything all planned out?

Jessicka: Yeah, the vision's there. I can't necessarily map it out verbally right now.

D. Necro: You just do your tours, your next record?

Jessicka: Yeah, of course. You do the tour; the next record will probably be a little darker than the first because the first was a combination of what we've done previously. It's more of an introduction to the band. I mean some of those songs are 4 years old. So rather than rehashing a lot of stuff that we've done previously, our next record should be a lot fresher and a lot darker.

D. Necro: What would you like your fans to know that they may not know about you and your music?

Jessicka: Let's see...about me. That it's all true, except when I lie, and that there's a point when you can forgive yourself for certain things. Because I'm trying to every day.

Wait a minute, wait a minute...that's not all boils and ghouls, there was another side to this band in the form of bassist (and co-founder) Robin "Agent" Moulder. More than just a mere sidekick, she had a lot to do with both the image and the sound of Jack Off Jill. A rare combination of brains and beauty, she gave this band a lot of it's personality, and never was short on wit and sarcasm. Musically, her heaving and distorted bass lines, and eerie keyboard passages fleshed out Jessicka's tales of torment perfectly.
Soon after my interview with Jessicka, this woman was eager to be interviewed, and bugged me about it to no end. I basically blew it off thinking "what's the point? I already interviewed the leader of the band, lady!" I later realized her importance to this band, and I caught up with her almost a year later in the summer of 1998, in a hot, dirty Downtown Detroit parking lot no less...and no, I didn't get to feel any body parts. Damnit. -DN

David Necro: Do you write all the music? Are you the main composer?

Agent Moulder: I have been. So far it's working great, it's not a problem. We just start playing and things just happen.

D. Necro: Did you play any other instruments besides bass on your debut?

A. Moulder: Yeah, I played everything except for guitar.

D. Necro: You played drums.

A. Moulder: No, no drums;meverything except guitar and drums. I played everything else like keyboards, piano, theramin; whatever crazy thing came up.

D. Necro: Yeah, because there's a rumour that you played drums and everything on there pretty much.

A. Moulder: No, actually I'm the worst drummer ever. I think it's a combination of the fact that I'm left handed, even though I do a lot of things right-handed. I was ambidextrous for a really long time, but drums don't make sense to me right-handed. So when I get behind a kit, I freeze and don't know what to do.

D. Necro: Is it difficult for you to write music?

A. Moulder: No,it just happens. I don't really even think about it. To me, music is math, which of course it is in reality. But I'm so math-oriented that I'm always just thinking of something or some equation and it just kind of comes out in the songwriting.

D. Necro: That helps with songwriting? How does that help with songwriting?

A. Moulder: Yeah, because you can calculate a way a song should go. Or you can choose not to and just go emotionally and let it go where it wants to go.

D. Necro: I don't know, that doesn't make any sense, but I guess if it works, it works. What the Hell.

A. Moulder: It works for me. But usually, the best songs come out when you're just totally emotionally frustrated anyway, and you jump up there and play a riff. Then go up for that riff and start going somewhere else with it.

D. Necro: Where do you fit in, in the music scene?

A. Moulder: That is difficult right now. We were out with Lords of Acid and yeah, they were a fun band, and they were great and everything. But they're techno/electronic, and a lot of the audience members would look at us like, "what are you doing here, and why are we watching you?" Even though plenty of them loved us too, it was awkward. We need to be more in the Heavy Metal or the Hard Rock/Metal genres. Like Psychotica worked real well; people really liked both bands.

D. Necro: Maybe because of the visuals?

A. Moulder: I think the visuals; they have a stage presence that's great, and the music's really catchy and fun.

D. Necro: What have you done with the stage show?

A. Moulder: We really haven't had a chance to do anything that we would really want to do in the future, like a lot of props. We've always had more props when we were in Florida because you can always get them from your house. But carrying them on the road when you have limited resources is a little difficult.

D. Necro: Right, it's a lot of money.

A. Moulder: Yeah.

D. Necro: What are some of the emotions that you are trying to convey in your music?

A. Moulder: (laughs) The ones I can't communicate in real life.

D. Necro: Is it a wide range of different things, or is it 1 certain thing?

A. Moulder: It's not a super-wide range, but I'm such a geek (what? -DN) that I'm most comfortable behind a computer or with a soldering iron. So when it comes to getting emotional with people, I'm not very good at that.

D. Necro: Is Jack Off Jill mad at the world?

A. Moulder: Oh, completely.

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