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by David Necro

Photos by: David Necro

Heavily drawing from all things horror, DBY (which stands for Death Becomes You) have created a sound that is at the same time both visceral and melodic, yet dark enough to let you know that mortal fools need not apply. Along with this is a gritty New York-bred attitude that will either make you love ‘em or hate ‘em. Think 'Goodfellas' meets a classic Universal or Hammer horror flick. There’s no middle ground here with this band (in more ways than 1.) Do they care? I highly doubt it. In their lyrical approach, they fully understand what this whole death trip is about. Also, unlike bands of the horror rock (or horror punk) scene, they don’t tend to copy their influences too closely. There’s originality present for once. No camp, cheez, or other nonsense that’s far from an afternoon revue here in Sin City.  However, all is not so gruesome. There is an aspect of fun and humour, 1 of the black variety (but of course) They certainly are “fit for a funeral,” but wouldn’t be out of place at the most indulgent of parties either. But, it’s the personalities which fuel the fire of this band; the brash and outspoken (yet highly intelligent) Christopher Lee (drums,) the misanthropic and sarcastic John Janos (vokills,) the borderline insanity of Nicodemous (bass,) and last but not least the quiet morbidity of guitarist Gory (gotta watch out for the quiet ones.) Somehow, these diverse personalities work in unison, particularly in the live arena. Speaking of which, their stage show is at once reminiscent of early Alice Cooper or KISS in it’s sleekness and macabre imagery. Yet if 1 suspends disbelief, it’s more than just watching a cool horror flick on late-night T.V. You are right on the set of the movie, or even right in the middle of it. Sure, there’s many bands out there with a gothic horror look, but there’s very little synthetic-based stuff here. DBY feel (like Lou Reed) that you can’t beat guitar, bass, and drums. With that, they are louder and more aggressive than the overwhelming majority of their contemporaries. That’s a good thing. In their own way, they just may have re-invented Deathrock, or at the very least are continuing the legacy of said genre. To this, the term “grave-wave” (which they coined) makes a lot of sense. Only Father Time will be the judge as to whether or not they will be what 45 Grave or Christian Death were/are to Gothic Rock/Deathrock and start a whole new movement. Right now, they’re just making it bleed…what is it though?

D. Necro: What's the whole idea behind 'Death Becomes You'?

Christopher Lee: When John Janos conceived the idea to bring us to life from the crypt, he wanted to create a band that was the villain of rock n' roll. That’s something that's been missing for a long time. There are no Johnny Rottens, there are no Alice Coopers right now. Just a lot of guys crying in their beer about how tormented they are by their adolescence. We wanted to bring it back to the villain, and bring the blood and guts back to rock n' roll.

John Janos: We're trying to do something that nobody else is right now; give people their money's worth.

C. Lee: Nowadays, you've got people who see someone take off with a concept, and now they have to follow suit. Basically copying with no individual identity thrown into it. There are a lot of bands out there now, especially in South Florida, who are basically making a mockery out of what bands like us have achieved. All of this is from us as individual people. None of this was formulated. We got this from our own identities. With these people it's very obvious. They know nothing more than that rock star guy whose initials are MM.

Gory: I'm not going to mention names, but there's a band that's around here that think they're total rock stars. These are people that we know, that have betrayed us and shit. It's really gay because they'll sit there and brag about their band, and they weren't even on the fuckin' cd that they had a record release party for.

C. Lee: The point is this; someone from Marilyn Manson, Pogo, made a very good statement to me early on when we started out; "If your own friends and confidants are talking shit about your band behind your back, you know you're doing something good, and you know you're doing something they're envious of. They day your friends all worship you, put you on a pedestal, and kiss your ass, you might as well realize that your band sucks."

J. Janos: They feel comfortable with your failure.

C. Lee: Exactly. We're not here to fail. Failure is the ultimate sin, and we're ungodly people, but there's still such a concept.

D. Necro: Are you trying to attract a certain type of audience? Does this matter to you?

C. Lee: We're not trying to attract any certain type of audience. We're not out of alienate anybody, you'll do it all by yourself. Basically, there's no reason why anybody with a brain who wants entertainment, who wants well-crafted songs would not enjoy this. Yeah, there's a lot of negativity to it, but we're channeling our demons and exorcising them. If you can't deal with the consequences of people unleashing the beast that's within them, then go to church. Go see a lesser band…

D. Necro: So this is not a put-on, like a cartoon character type of thing, true?

Nicodemous: I look at it more as each of us turning our personalities inside out.

C. Lee: Death Becomes You is made up of four completely unique individuals who push and pull in different ways much like early Motley Crue, and there's a chemistry there with all of the arguments and all of the fighting. If one of those pieces of the puzzle were to be replaced, the chemistry would be completely lost. Which is why we've outlasted our contemporaries who break up within a year and a half and/or go through ten million band members. We want to murder one another, drink each others blood, and impale each other on crucifixes every other day of the week, because we all have the same goal. When we see someone pulling back when they should be pushing forward, it irks the other three. We were born to do this… This is all we are. We are very tormented people who have had very all-American upbringings, and this is our way of dealing with them.

Nicodemous: ...and the violence, too.

D. Necro: Why are you angry? There's a lot of fake anger & rage out there.

C. Lee:  While we're sitting here watching this Alice Cooper video, basically it's in the chagrin of the early Alice Cooper band. It's all-American. It's all about sex, violence, and a bloody good time. We love to party, but we know when to responsible. Because the day it affects the band, I'll be the first 1 to walk. There's a time and a place for excess, and a time and a place for professionalism. There is a fine line between being sincere and being phony. My point was, the bands who are doing what we're doing, on a grand scale right now; all of them are phony. This is from the heart, this is from the soul, you look at us and you know we're sincere. We live and breathe this.

Gory: We're all pretty fucked up people… we've all gone through a lot of shit. Some more than others, so this is kind of our therapy.

J. Janos: We all have hard-ons.

C. Lee: Read the website (, read all of the articles, and read all of the press. It's all documented; the good, the bad, the ugly. I think that proves our conviction to what we believe in and what we want to do with this. It's all about conviction.... If you're going to turn around and cry and retreat from the first thing that's thrown at you as far as adversity, you are not cut from the same cloth that we are. We've been bled many times, and we keep bleeding. Nothing stops us. You cannot take the heart or remove the brain from this creation. There's no other way.

D. Necro: Ok, you've said you've been through a lot of traumatic stuff, or what have you. Now...

C. Lee: No, just a lot of ups and downs that go along with forging your career.

J. Janos: Having hurdles thrown in front of you...

Nicodemous: ...and basically overcoming them.

J .Janos: Getting robbed a week and a half before your first show... things like that.

D. Necro: Can you go into detail?

C. Lee: Yeah. It's called you wear make-up after some guy whose initials are MM has already attached his claim, and totally made the mainstream bored of any band with a look or an image. You come along now, and that's the problem; right away it's all about judging you with their eyes, not with their ears. The music is never noticed. It's everything but the music. The band name, right away people associate with you with Death Metal...

J. Janos: we're from Florida.

C. Lee: Total insult, ok?

J. Janos: Actually, we're from New York, but we live in Florida.

C. Lee: We're New York transplants.

Nicodemous: The shittiest thing for us happening in this place is Marilyn Manson coming out of here.

D. Necro: Really… You mean that.

Nicodemous: Yeah. I don't think it's helped anything. I'm not as much into them as I used to be, to be honest with you. For the simple fact that I can see it's not doing anything good for me, you know?

D. Necro: What sort of traumatic things have you been through, though? Have you been on the street, homeless?

C. Lee: For all of us basically, we have chosen rock n' roll as our destination, not a vocation. We have nothing else to fall back on. If that's the way you have chosen to live your life, you are going to face much adversity. Because what do you have at the end of the day to fall on if your dreams should be reduced to ashes? You have nothing.

D. Necro: Ok, no degrees here.

C. Lee: Yeah, basic high school diplomas, you know. But the point is this...

J. Janos: I'm the only one that went to college.

C. Lee: Yeah, Janos is the only one with a real education. You know, you've sacrificed your life for this. We're always two steps from the street.

J. Janos: We're the quintessential band. There are 4 guys in the band, 3 of them got kicked out of school; 3 of them have been in jail.

C. Lee: Yeah, there's 3 Dee Dee Ramones.

J. Janos: We're closer to the Ramones than we are anything else.

Nicodemous: I've been in jail more than everyone in this room put together!

D. Necro: Really, for what kind of stuff?

J. Janos: Stupid offenses.

Nicodemous: Yeah. Statutory rape, speeding...

D. Necro: chopped someone's head off.

C. Lee: Vandalism and stuff like that.

J. Janos: We've led very sordid lives.

C. Lee: Basically, it comes back to this; we all have an outlaw mentality, and in this world, an outlaw mentality means going against the grain. Being the wolf, not the sheep. That doesn't really benefit you in a society where everyone's bending backwards to co-exist peacefully. There is no time for that, and we live sordid lives. I relate our story and our backgrounds to that of Motley Crue. There are a lot of those pre-requisites to where we've all been growing up.

J. Janos: The thing with Death Becomes You is as I said, we're a very New York band that has a completely different kind of mentality. It's a go-getter kind of mentality. When I was a kid when we first moved here, during the bullshit jobs when I was going through college, people would tell me; " You’ve got to be from New York, I can see it in your work ethic." It's a different kind of vibe, man. People here, they see that intensity, and they take a step back.

C. Lee: Basically, we're the antidote to South Florida. South Florida is very casual, leisure, reclusive...

J. Janos: It's a "do it tomorrow" kind of mentality.

C. Lee: Yeah, and we're from New York. It's "do it right now, put the gun to your head while I do it, put the knife to your throat." You don't put off ‘til tomorrow what you can do today. The Florida way is ‘go home to your million-dollar mansion, with your mom and dad paying your way through life, living this fabricated dream’... We don't subscribe to that.

J. Janos: We hate Florida. I'm fuckin' tired of Cuban boys, I'm tired of fuckin' suntans, I hate fuckin' convertibles...

Gory: You know what? This place sucks. Nic and I went to California a few years ago, and, here, you got wiggers and jocks and shit. Out there, it's all rock.

Nicodemous: You even got niggas on skateboards in California!

Gory: All of the minorities and shit, they all fuckin' ride skateboards, and they're all rocker guys. They all have piercings. Even the gangstas out there are all pierced up. So I know it's not just us. This place fuckin' sucks my dick.

C. Lee: There's no rock n' roll here. There are all these sub-factions of rock n roll; you're playing rap-rock, you're playing nerd rock, you're playing jock-rock, woe-is-me rock. We're playing rock n' roll. This is KISS at a funeral. We are the only thing here that lives and breathes rock n' roll. It's the Sex Pistols, KISS, the New York Dolls, the Ramones, the Misfits, early Alice Cooper, and Slayer in a blender. We push and pull and take from all of those bands, which is basically nothing more than a movie that we provide the soundtrack for, coming to life and taking your fucking head off.

J. Janos: People start with the Misfits comparisons. But, most of it is just from stuff I grew up with when I was a kid; 70s TV, a lot of movies that were syndicated in the 70s that would show up on Saturday afternoons. Shit like that.

C. Lee: Well, that was the starting point. You got 2 guys who were older, 2 guys who were younger, and there's a lot of dichotomy in this band. We all had a relative interest in the Misfits, and it started with that in 1998.

J. Janos: All of us are horror fans. Obviously myself more than the other three, but it's all there. Because you’ve got to figure he (Christopher Lee), being my brother, he grew up around it. So it's not like you're trying to mold somebody to be in your band. There's a guy who's been there your whole life.

D. Necro: Is there more chemistry because of this?

C. Lee: As Janos said, he raised me on a lot of stuff...

J. Janos: It's the older brother syndrome.

C. Lee: I was five years old, going to school, first day of school in Kindergarten, and I'm wearing a KISS t-shirt. This guy (J. Janos) was 9 years old and he got me into KISS. I saw Gene Simmons on the cover of 'Alive II' with blood all over him in TSS Seidman's in New York. I said to my mother, "I need that record." My mother went, 'you're not getting it." I then said, in an assertive of a voice that you could ever use as a little kid, "I need that record now!" It was mine...

D. Necro: How did that affect you other than the cover?

J. Janos: I couldn't play my copy. The tattoos went all over the record.

Nicodemous: As a kid, I got into KISS when I was four (laughs) The first KISS poster I had on my wall used to scare the fuck out of me. I was terrified of Gene Simmons, but at the same time I worshipped the fuckin' guy. I'm a total Gene Simmons freak, but at one time, I used to be really afraid of this guy. Even though I bought his records and shit.

C. Lee: You don't know subconsciously that you like it. You just see this thing about it. I've always identified with the bad guy. I had 'Star Wars' figures; Luke Skywalker and Han Solo collected dust. The Darth Vader, that's where it was at. The Boba Fett, that's where it was at. Bad, bad, bad. What makes it bad? I want to know. Bad is good, give me more bad. Villains, villains, villains. So I saw Gene, and I was like "what is this? I like this!" I loved it...

J. Janos: The villains were always the coolest action figures. They always had the best clothes.

C. Lee: It's the thing LaVey said about the aerodynamics of cars, and the way the front of the car juts out to points. It's about things that are sleek, and just very quick and to the point. They have this thing to them where you just know it's bad, but it feels so good you're like, "I need that."

J. Janos: Anton LaVey said that. A car, like the old Corvairs for example, a car can be evil. Not evil in a mindset that it's harmful, but that it can have a sinister approach to it in the design that carries this sense of foreboding.

C. Lee: Much like a castle. A castle is just a building. But, you can make it look evil. Put enough little jags and things in it, and it could look totally evil.

J. Janos: The architecture comes into play.

C. Lee: It's all about architecture, definitely.

D. Necro: Is this the vibe you're trying to give off?

J. Janos: I think it's part of us. I don't think we're really trying to give off a vibe.

Gory: We're not trying to do anything. We're doing what we do naturally.

J. Janos: You either get it or you don't. That goes along hand in hand with this mentality we get press-wise and from people; they want to throw you under that whole banner of shock-rock. I'm not trying to put any kind of pre-disposed vibe together, like we're trying to shock you. We do what we do. I don't think we're a shock-rock band. The thing with the shock-rock bands through the years...the funny thing is the bands that got labeled shock-rock, I don't think it really even applies to them. It's almost as if you're trying to imply that it's a sense of image over everything else, and music has nothing to do with it. The whole idea is to shock people. Maybe that's true for some, but as you look at KISS or Cooper, there's a lot of substance there. I don't think they were trying to shock anybody.

C. Lee: I always explain it like this. From day 1, having the disemboweled babies on gallows and stuff like that. If you find that offensive, then I guess we're all just really jaded as people, and we were raised to be too freely thinking when we were growing up, because I see nothing offensive in that. First of all, it's made out of plastic… it's fake. What it represents is a different story altogether. We were raised on American TV, horror movies, trash culture, and the whole nine. If you watch the news at 6 pm, how many kids get killed a night by their own parents? Does it bother you that much that the truth is stuck in your face? A lot of it's like the Talmud, you sticking the truth back in people's faces reminding them of what they'd like to forget about themselves.

J. Janos: We're sticking this in your face, and it's not in a box. We're out to give you your money's worth, but in turn, we want your attention. We don't have a contrived show, but there is a certain sense of it that's designed. The idea is like going to a hockey game, you don't want to get hit in the teeth with a puck, you have to pay attention to it because you don't know what's coming next.

C. Lee: Like when Nicodemous is on stage. Unless you want to get kicked in the face or blood spit all over you, I would advise that you stand back about five feet. Because I'm not responsible for Nicodemous' actions, you know?

D. Necro: So is your nightmare an escape from the living nightmare of the real world?

C. Lee: No. Again, this is basically our way of celebrating all of the things that pique our interest and out curiosities that make us who we are. We're totally morbid people.

Nicodemous: It's kind of like celebrating life in a way.

C. Lee: Yeah, we're celebrating life completely. Because certain people in the band had their fathers die a while back, and we wanted to play a show the night that we buried that person. We were scheduled to play with Insane Clown Posse. We looked at it as death rising from the grave, conquering life. This is all about celebrating life, because you may not be here tomorrow. When you've had a lousy day, you'll know when you've had a good day. There's nothing negative here. Actually, there's a lot of Christian principles in this band even though we're not very Christian people. It's all about learning to respect the opposite that you are.

J. Janos: I think with his passing if anything...for everyone that wants to talk shit about "ooo, spooky, scary." A lof of that, as far as for me anyways, an homage to everything I've been influenced by. I'm not up there trying to scare you, "ooo, you're gonna go home tonight and have nightmares." The whole idea is guys like Bela Lugosi, Chaney, Karloff, a lot of what they exemplified on screen. But again, it's not on the TV screen, it's not in the movies, it's three dimensional. We put our money where our mouth is as far as that guy passing, and at least attempting to play a show. As far as I'm concerned, we can write our own check now so to speak, in that whatever we've talked about, we've lived it. So for anyone who wants to tell you, "oh, it's shtick, it's morbid, what have you." Forget them.

C. Lee: Remember this, it's very good to make fun of death. You know why? People spend their entire lives avoiding going out a pursuing a real life because they're afraid of death. I'm not afraid of death. I've already died 3 times, if you want to get into that. I fear nothing except failure. Three parts of my being are dead, they’re in the box. People spend their whole lives not wanting to pursue their dreams because of the fear of this and that. People go to the grave saying, "I wish I had done this, I wish I had done that." When I go to the grave, much like LaVey, "at this point, I've done almost everything I've wanted to do."

J. Janos: That's where a lot of the name comes from though. It was derived from Shakespeare. I wanted something that had like a regal sense to it, that kind of a ring. It kind of sounds like a line out of Macbeth. But at the same time it's the only thing in life that you're guaranteed.

D. Necro: So this is something you're very fascinated with, the subject of death.

J. Janos: I'm not fascinated by it, it's the only thing you're guaranteed. So people think it's shtick, but at the end of the day, this is all you have. It will end someday...

C. Lee: Basically, I've always had a very curious interest in the whole funeral thing. The embalming process; what they do to the body after you die. I've read a lot of books growing up such as the one by Michael Boddin, the guy who was the Elvis coroner. Everything. I just have this totally normal, healthy fascination with what is going to happen the minute that heart stops beating. It always will have a major effect on everything I do in my life.

D. Necro: Do you know what will happen after you die? I sure don't.

J. Janos: Yeah. They'll throw me into the ground, I'll become dog shit, and I'll become an all-you-can-eat-buffet for the fuckin' maggots.

C. Lee: That's a different interview altogether, David. Mr. Necro, if you will.

J. Janos: Miss Jackson, if you must.

D. Necro: What kind of energy do you give off to your audiences?

C. Lee: It's like a Black Magic ritual. We let this thing out, the four of us. It's like primal scream therapy. A lot of the audiences here are so stupid, because we're not on ‘MTV,’and we're not telling you in ‘Rolling Stone’ how to react to us in advance. Right away, they see all of this negative energy just being displaced, and they take it offensively. If they had a brain, they'd throw it back at us. Which is what happens here and there with some of the shows, and those are the best shows. I don't think it's that esoteric. But when they finally get it, and throw it back at us, it's like a big orgasm. The whole show is just people feeding off one another.

D. Necro: So you feed off of the energy of the audience. It's not like you're just up there playing to the walls regardless of what they do.

C. Lee: Even if the audience is dead, even if they just screamed how much we sucked, as long as we know there's a pulse there, that's all we need. We will feed off of it all night, and we'll work it right down to the vein.

D. Necro: Where's the power of the band -  live, or in the studio?

C. Lee: Live.

J. Janos: I think any good band's gotta be convincing live. Any schmuck can make a good record.

Nicodemous: A band like us or any band in the past that's done anything visually, probably the same for all of them.

Gory: With the technology and crap that you have to today to make a record, anyone can make a decent record. All it takes is money. If you can go and you can do a show, and can kick your fuckin' ass live, then you're good.

D. Necro: It's 100 percent live, true? You don't use any effects or any kind of samples.

C. Lee: David, do we have a fucking keyboard player? Do we have a fucking sampler, is there a fucking guy playing electronic drums? What do you think, in rock n' roll? (shakes head and waves hand dismissively)

J. Janos: That's become an epidemic in the last 6 or 7 years.

C. Lee: Basically, it's like this, man. Live is the arena where we work best. Because we're like a machine, and this is all we know. We know our songs backwards, forwards, upside down, left and right, south of heaven, and this is what we do. You get the whole package when we play live.

Nicodemous: It's second nature, like taking a piss. So you ain't even gotta think. You just snap until three and a half minutes is fuckin' gone and the song's over.

C. Lee: It's just a question of physically, is your stomach up to par to handle the convulsions you're going to give your body. The beating you're going to take upon yourself in the name of entertainment. Are you going to be ready to vomit as soon as you're done from exhaustion, heat stroke, and dehydration?

Nicodemous: A good example would be me setting my fuckin' feet on fire while we're playing.

J. Janos: Setting his body on fire...

Nicodemous: Me fuckin' beating myself in the head until I have big golf balls fuckin' bulging out of the side of my fuckin' brain.

D. Necro: Now why do you do that? Are you just crazy, or what?

Nicodemous: (laughs) Why not? It feels kind of good when I'm doing it. It doesn't hurt until the next morning.

J. Janos: That 45 minutes onstage every night is like the ultimate workout.

C. Lee: Just to play a show for us is a whole day affair with getting a van, loading the equipment, the whole nine. You go through hours and hours of preparation for a whole 45 minutes to explode. When you really think about it in the grand scheme, that 45 minutes might as well be 5 minutes.

J. Janos: We're not your typical South Florida band, where everybody goes up there in sandals and fuckin' beach shorts. The biggest insult is nobody dresses up anymore. If you're a doctor, you wear a stethoscope, if you're a salesman, you carry a briefcase, if you're an accountant, you have a calculator with you. It's a uniform, ok? It's always been there. It's probably more prevalent in say the last 10 to 15 years because music's gotten sophisticated. These kids are so hip to everything. It's total realism to say that you should look like you're in a band. I'm not saying that you should look like Motley Crue, but this grunge thing, it put the last nail in the coffin. It's almost like it had to happen for everything to regenerate.

D. Necro: I don’t know, there's a lot of bands running around with a similar look to yours.

C. Lee: And your point is?

D. Necro: Well, the point is, I don't see it as people dressing down entirely.

C. Lee: The point is this; they're not playing rock n' roll, they're not playing well-constructed music, they're not playing music with hooks, they're not playing music with choruses that you'll remember while they're fucking pouring the dirt over your coffin. On top of that, they have no heart, they have no soul, and it's totally fuckin' synthetic; "ooo, you went to the mall, you went a bought expensive clothes, and you went and put eye make-up on." We fuckin' designed our own shit. We designed our make-up. We didn't hire someone. With all of our contemporaries out there doing the make-up thing, the visual thing, it's like this;  Where's the songs, where's the show, where's the truth? It's empty, it's shallow, it's garbage. Anybody with a brain will buy the record and then later go, "Why did I buy this? This sucks!" You buy our record, you listen to our stuff, you know immediately why you like it. Because it hits you, and there's nothing to ponder. It's what's good about music from the get-go.

D. Necro: What would you say to someone who says, "Oh, this stuff (horror punk, death rock, gothic rock, etc.) is passé, it was 20 years ago."

C. Lee: I would say history repeats itself and those who are damned to forget it, are damned to repeat it, ok? What the Misfits didn't accomplish, a fucking band like us is going to, because it's a completely different time. You didn't have the Internet and the underground was a totally untapped commodity at that point. The underground is totally commercialized now… there is no underground. There is no tape-trading anymore. We could do more in five years than what it took the Misfits 25 fucking years to do, and I think we're almost there.

J. Janos: Besides the fact that we're not really part of that whole thing. We pretty much have our own thing going.

C. Lee: We separated ourselves from that when we decided to call our music "Grave-Wave."

D. Necro: Ok, well what is that?

C. Lee: Grave-Wave means basically you can do whatever you want. There's no limit. No one's ever decided for you. Just like Alice Cooper. Alice never said what they were; they left it up to the audience. Same thing with us. As far as I'm concerned, if that means writing a total pop song except the lyrics would be about drinking your girlfriend's blood in a tub, hey, so be it. I want to branch out and do everything and draw the people who would never give me the time of day because of our look into our world.

D. Necro: So, it's about being multi-faceted.

C. Lee: Exactly. Why limit yourself? We are the living embodiment of the legacy that Alice Cooper started.

D. Necro: You really believe that.

C. Lee: Yes. Because there are all these bands that think that they have to make it so extreme. You know what? There's an art to pulling back and always keeping that tongue-in-cheek kind of thing to it. Alice could have been a hell of a lot more extreme. He knew what pushed people's buttons just enough, and then he pulled back.

J. Janos: There's an art to riding the fence. Anyone can be extreme for the sake of it...

C. Lee: ...and there's a lot of bands like that.

J. Janos: Most of them are going to end up being boring.

D. Necro: Like GG Allin...

Nicodemous: I was just fuckin' thinking that! Anybody can take a shit on a stage!

C. Lee: I saw GG Allin in December of '91 in Washington Square in Miami. He did about 4 songs before the cops came in because the show was supposed to be secret. The minute the cops got word, they were there. Anyway, no, that's not it... What I mean is people that saw Marilyn Manson now have to do him one better. It's like, "listen asshole, put that kind of energy into the music and you might have something."

D. Necro: Would you do that kind of stuff, like GG Allin and Manson?

C. Lee: No, because that has nothing to do with what we're about. Basically, everything with us is cohesive.

J. Janos: There's no logic to it.

D. Necro: Ok, what about doing stuff that Iggy Pop did?

C. Lee: Iggy had a point, and just like us, there has to be a method to your madness. These guys don't. It's just copying, copying, copying. This is from the heart, thanks.

J. Janos: There has to be reason for it. Everything's got to mesh. If you're writing about it lyrically, and you're playing it musically, you have to do it visually. The three have to work. Not everyone can do it. If you have a jerk walking around on stilts onstage, wrapped in Xmas lights, and the song is about something else, and the band looks like something else, it doesn't work.

C. Lee: Exactly. You're a horror band. Why would your singer be taking a shit onstage? I don't remember Lon Chaney taking a shit in any of the old Universal films. It has to be cohesive; this is what you are, this is what you do in these boundaries.

J. Janos: Mudvayne is a good example of that. They have a look that has nothing to do with their music. They weren't even smart enough to do a KISS kind of thing where they pull back and don't wear make-up.

Nicodemous: They look fuckin' stupid. If I ever saw one of those guys on street, I'D FUCK THEM UP. (laughs)

D. Necro: Who, the Mudvayne guys?

Nicodemous: (laughs) Yeah.

Gory: My point is this; "I like the way you smack my ass!"

D. Necro: Isn't that Puddle of Mudd? Fred Durst's boy-toys...

C. Lee: Another great band (rolls eyes) Everytime I ever emailed Glen Buxton's sister, we dedicated our 1st cd ('Unearthed') to him, we're his blood legacy. This is what happens when the youth researched the roots of rock n' roll and they know where they've been. I said (to her) "we are the legacy of people like Alice Cooper and Glen Buxton and the whole 9." She then said, "If that's what you are, then God bless you, do it." I know we're doing the right thing. Like I said, you’ve got to know when to pull back. Anybody can go up on stage and break a beer bottle, slit your throat, and rape some young girl. That has what to do with your music? Everything's become way too sophisticated. You want extreme? We played with Christian Death, and when we got done, I was sitting on the bar totally sick with bronchitis, and Nic masturbated me in front of about 12 young girls (why not 13? –DN) for entertainment value.

D. Necro: Is this true?

C. Lee: Oh, totally true. He (Nicodemous) was totally following the fuckin' cocktail party.

D. Necro: So are you bi-sexual?

C. Lee: There's nothing beautiful about a man's ass or his balls, sorry.

Nicodemous: We only did it in fun.

D. Necro: Yeah, but that was a homosexual act.

C. Lee: I didn't do it.

Nicodemous: We did it for entertainment.

C. Lee: This is all about entertaining you, and we did.

J. Janos: You're only gay if you receive, not if you give.

Gory: (in a really gay voice) Hi, David...

D. Necro: (laughs) So, there's a sexual side to the band.

C. Lee: We've been known to court porn stars who tend to feature at various South Florida adult entertainment establishments, and then get them to come see our band play the following weekend, and beat up their boyfriends.

J. Janos: Three of us were with the same chick.

C. Lee: We're total pornography fans. Pornography is art, and anybody that tells you it's not, has probably got a very unhealthy view of the world.

D. Necro: So, do you get a lot of groupies, or what?

C. Lee: We get the attention of a lot of women, but are they attractive? Are they worth going after and pursuing and conquering? Those are the questions.

D. Necro: Where does the band go from here?

C. Lee: Playing all over the world, and getting our name out every way that we can. We've pulled a lot of good publicity stunts that most bands don't have the ingenuity to pull off. Like our friends in New Found Glory, we had t-shirts made and we had them on MTV's 'Total Request Live' wearing them while they played. Publicity? Pretty fuckin' good publicity, I think.

J. Janos: We were transmitting a signal of evil upon the impressionable youth of America.

D. Necro: They've worn your t-shirts during their concerts as well, true?

C. Lee: Yeah.

D. Necro: So, what do you think about the association now that people are going to make or have made, the people against more mainstream music like New Found Glory, asking "Why are you in bed with those guys? What are you trying to do, sell out?"

C. Lee: I've known them forever. Last time I checked, New Found Glory was saying something relevant that means something that applies to anybody who has got a heart and soul. What's wrong with New Found Glory? Excellent band. I don't call them punk, that's more like emo-postive hardcore, or whatever you want to call it.

Gory: We're all from Coral Springs (Florida) We all went to school together, we've all known each other for years.

C. Lee: Should we befriend a band that wears make-up too, who's actually the complete opposite of what we do in every way? Who belittles a band like us and makes us look like schmucks? Or just befriend a band that's doing something good, who is the complete opposite of what we are? I'll take the latter, thanks. New Found Glory fucking rules. I don't think I’d have a tattoo of their logo on my fucking arm if they were fucking inferior, thanks.

D. Necro: But the question remains from the naysayers, “If these guys wanna be really intense and hard-edged, why this association?"

C. Lee: Because it's the darkness enveloping the light and eating it, that's why. They're the light, we're the darkness. You know what? It's kind of cool that a band that’s happy, nice, sweet, and sincere would befriend a band like us who will tear your fuckin' heart out.

Gory: I bet you 99 percent of the people that read this interview don't even know any of them. So, we get along with them very well, and we have a lot of things in common.

D. Necro: Well, still, people will say, "It's teenybopper music! Why are you trying to be in cahoots with them?"

Gory: We're not trying to. They're our friends.

C. Lee: I've never asked anyone in New Found Glory to ever do a thing for me. Ian, the bass player, offered to wear our shirt on MTV. No one put him up to it. He said, "You're my friends, I will do it," I just went, "Ok, let's hope he does it."

D. Necro: So you're not buttering up these friends of yours.

C. Lee: The only thing I butter up is my breakfast toast.

D. Necro: So the bottom line is, you associate with whomever the Hell you want.

C. Lee: Here's an answer. I like Sugar Ray. Uh oh, problem, problem. Who gives a fuck? Fuck off. Fuck you. Don't like it? I don't care. Who cares what these people think? You can't even think for yourself, that's why they have churches. You go to them on Sunday mornings, I'm at home sleeping and recovering from a hangover.

Gory: Dave, give me a break.

C. Lee: Yeah.

J. Janos: What's more important, length or width?

D. Necro: (laughs)

Gory: Hey Dave, remember your first blow job?

D. Necro: Yeah.

Gory: How long did it take to make the guy cum!?

D. Necro: All right, enough corny jokes… Do you think Death Becomes You will stand the test of time?

J. Janos: The music will, because we're not doing anything but being ourselves. We're like an evil garage band. We don't have all of the wishy-washy synthesizer shit that you hear today. All of those loops, and all of that shit... It's just four guys playing and I think whenever you strip everything down to the bare essentials it'll always have that timelessness to it. If you listen to 'Love It To Death' by Alice Cooper, it's a perfect example of it. You could either listen to that or you could listen to the first Ramones record, and they both sound like they were done a week ago. It's important...

D. Necro: What about the imagery?

J. Janos: I don’t know. That I don't know. People can talk all of the shit they want. We're not doing anything but being who we are...

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